Er is op TH een interessante link geweest over welke prijs een pro-instrument zou moeten hebben. Een ongewone bijdrage daarbij werd geleverd door de wat onbekende trompetbouwer Don Miles waarvan onomstreden is dat hij de hele trompet zelf maakt m.u.v. dacht ik de veren en de viltjes. Ze kosten meen ik ruwweg de helft van de Monette's, ik dacht rond de 6000 dollar. Het is wel een beetje een zonderlingachtig personage heb ik de indruk maar dat wil niet zeggen dat hij geen punt heeft.
Don Miles
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Location: Cincinnait, Ohio, USA
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:49 am Post subject:
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Most of the larger manufacturers will first decide what they can sell a trumpet for in their target market. Then they will try and build a trumpet around that price. The goal is to build something as cheap as possible and sell it for as much as possible in order to make as much money as possible.
Very few pro model trumpets are built as well as possible and then priced according to the cost of manufacturing. If they did that the average pro model trumpet would take up to two months to build and cost as much as the average new "pro model" violin $8,000-$24,000 and some as high as $40,000. Most professional trumpet players don't want to pay that so the larger manufacturers make the trumpet as cheap as possible, usually about 2-3 days labor and some as little as one day for a pro model. Then they price it low enough for a high school student (the target market for pro models) but high enough to make as much money as possible and give the impression that it is professional.
There is a lot of marketing BS going on in the trumpet making world. If you are paying for a pro model trumpet that is commonly found in high schools and other amateur groups then you are not playing a pro model trumpet. You are playing an amateur trumpet marketed as professional. I'm not saying that you are not professional or that professionals can't sound good on mass produced trumpets. I'm just saying mass produced trumpets are first priced according to the target market and then the cost of production. If you actually make the horn as well as possible and then price it according to the cost of production, the retail cost would be much higher than the average.
Don Miles
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Don Miles
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Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 63
Location: Cincinnait, Ohio, USA
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject:
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Yes it would. The market intended for most mass manufactured instruments is the amateur market. Just look at how many amateurs play "pro model" instruments.
I have spoken with string players, woodwind players, percussionists, low brass and conductors from various orchestras, some even in major orchestras and they look at the trumpet section in amazment, at how amateur the attitude is to the equipment they purchas today. In the past the mass produced instruments were all that was available so at that time it was not an issue. However today with small shops popping up all over that produce better instruments the other musicians, who are aware of it, marvel at the trumpet sections reluctance to spend the money for something better. Now if the mass produced instrument genuinely meets the needs of the trumpet player best then fine but when there is something out there that they like better and they don't buy it based on the price, well the string players, woodwinds, percussion and low brass just shake their heads in disbelief.
Imagine if you were a musician in a major or even regional orchestra and everyone you knew bought the best instrument they could find even taking out loans to purchase it like you would for a car but there is this one group in the orchestra that complains that they can't afford it if costs more than a couple thousand dollars or thinks they are really stretching to pay $3,000. You would think they were nuts. You would say "man this is your profession, these are your tools" what's wrong? I hear it a lot when I speak with members of the other sections and with conductors.
Well anyway, sorry I got off topic. Yes my previous post would apply to all brass instruments mass produced.
Don Miles
Miles Trumpets
Cincinnati, Ohio
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